An invention called: "JEWISH PEOPLE"

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An invention called 'the Jewish people'
By Tom Segev 02 marzo 2008


Israel's Declaration of Independence states that the Jewish people arose in 
the Land of Israel and was exiled from its homeland. Every Israeli 
schoolchild is taught that this happened during the period of Roman rule, in 
70 CE. The nation remained loyal to its land, to which it began to return 
after two millennia of exile. Wrong, says the historian Shlomo Zand, in one 
of the most fascinating and challenging books published here in a long time. 
There never was a Jewish people, only a Jewish religion, and the exile also 
never happened - hence there was no return. Zand rejects most of the stories 
of national-identity formation in the Bible, including the exodus from Egypt 
and, most satisfactorily, the horrors of the conquest under Joshua. It's all 
fiction and myth that served as an excuse for the establishment of the State 
of Israel, he asserts.

According to Zand, the Romans did not generally exile whole nations, and 
most of the Jews were permitted to remain in the country. The number of 
those exiled was at most tens of thousands. When the country was conquered 
by the Arabs, many of the Jews converted to Islam and were assimilated among 
the conquerors. It follows that the progenitors of the Palestinian Arabs 
were Jews. Zand did not invent this thesis; 30 years before the Declaration 
of Independence, it was espoused by David Ben-Gurion, Yitzhak Ben-Zvi and 
others.

If the majority of the Jews were not exiled, how is it that so many of them 
reached almost every country on earth? Zand says they emigrated of their own 
volition or, if they were among those exiled to Babylon, remained there 
because they chose to. Contrary to conventional belief, the Jewish religion 
tried to induce members of other faiths to become Jews, which explains how 
there came to be millions of Jews in the world. As the Book of Esther, for 
example, notes, "And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the 
fear of the Jews fell upon them."
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Zand quotes from many existing studies, some of which were written in Israel 
but shunted out of the central discourse. He also describes at length the 
Jewish kingdom of Himyar in the southern Arabian Peninsula and the Jewish 
Berbers in North Africa. The community of Jews in Spain sprang from Arabs 
who became Jews and arrived with the forces that captured Spain from the 
Christians, and from European-born individuals who had also become Jews.

The first Jews of Ashkenaz (Germany) did not come from the Land of Israel 
and did not reach Eastern Europe from Germany, but became Jews in the Khazar 
Kingdom in the Caucasus. Zand explains the origins of Yiddish culture: it 
was not a Jewish import from Germany, but the result of the connection 
between the offspring of the Kuzari and Germans who traveled to the East, 
some of them as merchants.

We find, then, that the members of a variety of peoples and races, blond and 
black, brown and yellow, became Jews in large numbers. According to Zand, 
the Zionist need to devise for them a shared ethnicity and historical 
continuity produced a long series of inventions and fictions, along with an 
invocation of racist theses. Some were concocted in the minds of those who 
conceived the Zionist movement, while others were offered as the findings of 
genetic studies conducted in Israel.

Prof. Zand teaches at Tel Aviv University. His book, "When and How Was the 
Jewish People Invented?" (published by Resling in Hebrew), is intended to 
promote the idea that Israel should be a "state of all its citizens" - Jews, 
Arabs and others - in contrast to its declared identity as a "Jewish and 
democratic" state. Personal stories, a prolonged theoretical discussion and 
abundant sarcastic quips do not help the book, but its historical chapters 
are well-written and cite numerous facts and insights that many Israelis 
will be astonished to read for the first time.

The mosquito from Kiryat Yam

On March 27, 1948, a meeting was held in Hiafa concerning the fate of the 
Bedouin of Arab al-Ghawarina in the Haifa area. "They must be removed from 
there, so that they, too, will not add to our troubles," Yosef Weitz, of the 
Keren Kayemeth (Jewish National Fund), wrote in his personal diary. Two 
months later, Weitz reported to the organization's director, "Our Haifa Bay 
has been evacuated completely and there is hardly a remnant of those who 
encroached our border." They were probably expelled to Jordan; some were 
allowed to remain in the village of Jisr al-Zarqa. The fate of the Arab 
al-Ghawarina Bedouin has recently made the headlines thanks to Shmuel Sisso, 
mayor of the Haifa suburb of Kiryat Yam. He has filed a complaint with the 
police against Google. The reason is the addition that one of the site's 
surfers, a resident of Nablus, attached to the center of Kiryat Yam in the 
world satellite photo, stating that the city is built on the ruins of a 
village that was destroyed in 1948, Arab al-Ghawarina. Sisso's complaint 
says that this is slanderous.

The facts are as follows: The lands of the Zevulun Valley were purchased in 
the 1920s by the JNF and by various construction companies, among them one 
called Gav Yam. The Zionist Archives have the plan for the establishment of 
Kiryat Yam, dated 1938, and a letter from 1945 states that there were 
already 100 homes there. Government maps from the British Mandate period 
identify the territory on which Kiryat Yam was built by two names: Zevulun 
Valley and Ghawarina. Thus it appears that this was not a settlement but an 
area in which Bedouin resided.

The Web site of the Israeli organization Zochrot (Remembering) states that 
there were 720 people at the site in 1948 and that the area was divided 
among three kibbutzim: Ein Hamifratz, Kfar Masaryk and Ein Hayam, today Ein 
Carmel.

This story has been making the rounds on the Internet and drawing responses, 
which can be summed up as follows: "If Sisso is suing Google because they 
stated that he is living on a destroyed Arab village, the implication is 
that he thinks this is something bad." Sisso, a lawyer of 57 who is 
identified with Likud and was formerly Israeli consul general in New York, 
says, "I don't think there is anything bad about it, but other people might 
think it is bad, especially people abroad, and that is liable to hurt Kiryat 
Yam, because people will not want to invest here. Since we are not sitting 
on a Palestinian village, why should we have to suffer for no reason?"

Moroccan-born, Sisso arrived in Israel in 1955. "I wandered around the whole 
region and I saw no trace of anyone's having been here before us and 
supposedly expelled." He asked an American law professor how, if at all, 
Google could be sued for slander or for damages. This, he says, is the 
contribution of Kiryat Yam to the struggle against the right of return (of 
the Palestinian refugees).

It could turn out to be the most riveting trial since Ariel Sharon sued Time 
magazine, but mayor Sisso has no illusions: "Me against Google is like a 
mosquito against an elephant," he said this week.

Who America belongs to

Two professors, Gabi Shefer and Avi Ben-Zvi, were guests this week on 
Yitzhak Noy's "International Hour" current events program on Israel Radio. 
The anchor, sounding slightly concerned, asked whether the achievements of 
Barack Obama show that the United States no longer belongs to the white man. 
Prof. Shefer confirmed this: Obama is an immigrant, he said. Prof. Ben-Zvi 
asked to add a remark: Gabi Shefer is right, he said. They are both wrong. 
If Obama were an immigrant, he would not be eligible to be elected 
president. He was born in Honolulu, some two years after Hawaii became the 
50th state of the union.

By Tom Segev


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NefeshBarYohai
Try to invent a way to kill yourself you worthless piece of fungus.
                                            
Don
you first! And then he will follow.. Honest Injun
                                            
ElParedon
Bush May Fire CentCom Chief Adm. Fallon, Replace With Commander More 
'Pliable' To War With Iran
Defense Secretary Robert Gates has called CENTCOM commander Adm. William 
Fallon "one of the best strategic thinkers in uniform today." Fallon opposed 
the "surge" in Iraq and has consistently battled the Bush administration to 
avoid a confrontation with Iran, calling officials' war-mongering "not 
helpful." Privately, he has vowed that an attack on Iran "will not happen on 
my watch."

Unfortunately, this level-headed thinking and willingness to stand up to 
President Bush may cost him his job. According to a new article by Thomas 
P.M. Barnett in the April issue of Esquire magazine (on newsstands March 
12), Fallon may be prematurely "relieved of his command" as soon as this 
summer:

  [W]ell-placed observers now say that it will come as no surprise if Fallon 
is relieved of his command before his time is up next spring, maybe as early 
as this summer, in favor of a commander the White House considers to be more 
pliable. If that were to happen, it may well mean that the president and 
vice-president intend to take military action against Iran before the end of 
this year and don't want a commander standing in their way.

In the Esquire article, Fallon also said that he was in "hot water" with the 
White House for meeting with Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak. Fallon noted 
that such meetings are his job, and essential to making sure that regional 
leaders don't get "too spun up" by the administration's war rhetoric.

In today's White House press briefing, a reporter asked spokeswoman Dana 
Perino about the Esquire piece. Perino refused to say whether Fallon's 
position is secure until the end of his tenure, instead attacking "rumor 
mills that don't turn out to be true." Watch it:
                                            
NefeshBarYohai
Don you don't have to kill yourself neither does Paredon, but I
promise you the longer the forces that oppose building The Jewish
Temple over the Rock of Moriah in Jerusalem, Eretz Israel exist the
longer humanity will suffer.  Human beings are so stupid.  They waste
money going to the moon where God does not want us to be but working
together to build a Temple to serve God on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem
is something that is too feeble for their mortal minds to conceive.
Most humans take the easy way by serving Satan instead of the correct
way of life by observing the Mitzvah in the Torah and serving God.
                                            
ElParedon
Don you don't have to kill yourself neither does Paredon, but I
promise you the longer the forces that oppose building The Jewish
Temple over the Rock of Moriah in Jerusalem, Eretz Israel exist the
longer humanity will suffer.

Your "Temple" is in Birobidzan, where you were shitted out!
                                            
Don
Yochi, You can believe in some mythical God, Gods, Goddesses etc, all 
you want. But please don't expect rational logical folks to believe that
Jewish insanity and criminal land grabs. Now if we are to bend over and 
take in the ass for every insane religious nutbars writing, babblings
or whatever... We would be really screwed by the dark forces of nasty 
murderous Jews and other inbred religious freaks.